tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post3023470271784793436..comments2024-01-26T10:57:33.473+05:30Comments on Motorcyclist At Large: TVS Flame: Fire starterrearsethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08436775522778611766noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-90484746253269183922007-11-03T11:26:00.001+05:302007-11-03T11:26:00.001+05:30The company plans to begin production of the Flame...The company plans to begin production of the Flame in November 2007 and launch the bike in December 2007 as planned. TVS, intends to go ahead with the December 2007 launch of its 125 cc bike TVS Flame.So much delay is of no use. As they will loose customers. They should launch within Deepavali festival.<BR/><BR/>if Tvs flames is not going to be launched before 5th of november its going to fail in the market for sure according to my surveys …. so i would suggest Tvs to launch it asap if not its definately going to become a drawback’<BR/><BR/>As of now many new bikes with lot of offers are launched by Bajaj,Hero honda,Yamaha. We may notice the delay of TVS fLAME 125CC ,i think they wont launch the bike. Tvs will loose the market.They will loose ideal customers<BR/><BR/>i am waiting for past 2 months for the launch of Flame. Now i feel that to take Hero Honda Bike. No use of waiting for TVS FLAME BIKE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-84091256513836502142007-10-26T01:44:00.000+05:302007-10-26T01:44:00.000+05:30If you can wait ...check out the Flame and then de...If you can wait ...check out the Flame and then decideAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-54364068536390111582007-09-20T15:19:00.000+05:302007-09-20T15:19:00.000+05:30I WANT TO BUY A NEW BIKE WHICH GIVES ME THE LOOKS ...I WANT TO BUY A NEW BIKE WHICH GIVES ME THE LOOKS AND THE MILEAGE<BR/>BUT AM CONFUSED WHICH ONE TO BUY THE APACHE OR THE FLAME AS I PREFER FLAME MORE COZ ITS CHEAPER.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10071597908270005123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-90126291427614821052007-09-19T13:13:00.000+05:302007-09-19T13:13:00.000+05:30Hi frnds,I think this bike will work in Market onl...Hi frnds,<BR/>I think this bike will work in Market only if it gives 55kmpl as average & price around 45K-48K(Ex Showroom) as it is a TVS Product. I would Suggest this bike to my frnds if & only if it fits in the above criteria rest all is excellent.<BR/>PareshAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-48086544440952601262007-09-12T19:58:00.000+05:302007-09-12T19:58:00.000+05:30This thing from TVS is surly the hottest but what ...This thing from TVS is surly the hottest but what about its fuel effficiency that what 125cc segment is all about. it isn't a faster bike even then it must be a criteria while purchasing. I also have looked at the Bajaj's XCD 125 which assures 109km/liter. Even it claimed 77 that for pulsar but it gives 50 only in real conditions considering the fact it will be giving nothing less than 75km/lit. Indeed need your comments for fuel efficiency of Flame and comparisions between the two.Devhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15412863996619977457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-24672318221945989012007-09-10T15:18:00.000+05:302007-09-10T15:18:00.000+05:30First of all which bike is RTR whos the manufactur...First of all which bike is RTR whos the manufacture<BR/><BR/>any idea wat milage this bike will give ? <BR/><BR/>and whens this coming outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-25124288078677540262007-09-07T19:32:00.000+05:302007-09-07T19:32:00.000+05:30anyway a good looking bike from TVS ... they are s...anyway a good looking bike from TVS ... they are sure getting betterJackfruithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00394985546429644345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-63834566187111566442007-09-07T04:42:00.000+05:302007-09-07T04:42:00.000+05:30I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet.A long...I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet.<BR/><BR/>A long time ago, someone (journo or customer) asked, and someone (bike manufacturer) replied that the reason commuter bikes are usually limited to four speeds is to keep it simple for the rider who can't care less about performance. Four speeds means less gear-changes.<BR/><BR/>Which is why even the discover 135, with a nearly 12hp engine, comes with only four-speeds. It's a commuter, not a performance bike.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-13528392717018686972007-09-06T18:23:00.000+05:302007-09-06T18:23:00.000+05:30I mean FLAME, these names keep confusing me.I mean FLAME, these names keep confusing me.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04406539336689134642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-40071699852938895372007-09-06T13:22:00.000+05:302007-09-06T13:22:00.000+05:30Sumit, what's FIRE ?Sumit, what's FIRE ?Sprotorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17083966022007416347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-16681317158229195302007-09-06T04:01:00.000+05:302007-09-06T04:01:00.000+05:30@rearset: I think this is a very deliberate move f...@rearset: I think this is a very deliberate move from TVS to choose 4-speed trans instead of 5. Here I think why..<BR/>1) Fire looks better than RTR<BR/>2) Goodies are almost as good as RTR<BR/>3) Power is very good if we go by numbers, while RTR has better. But anybody who really cares about power would go for p200 or p220 anyway.<BR/>4) Performance should be comparable to RTR below 75kmph<BR/>5) By offering a 4-speed box you can limit the top speed to 90s vs 115 of RTR and RTR would sound much smoother in 5th gear at high speed (above 80) compare to in 4th gear FIRE<BR/><BR/>Thus would give everyone a very good reason to consider RTR if they want high speed excitement as well.<BR/><BR/>If I have have to choose between 5speed FIRE and RTR, I definitely choose FIRE. But with 4-speed FIRE vs RTR I don't know. I think 5the gear can make line between FIRE and RTR quite thin if all numbers are true.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04406539336689134642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-9071930463494189832007-09-05T13:24:00.000+05:302007-09-05T13:24:00.000+05:30What's wrong with well-designed 4?Nothing technica...<B>What's wrong with well-designed 4?</B><BR/>Nothing technically. But when your competition sports a 5-speed gearbox (no matter how it is designed) your product faces a competitive disadvantage on the showroom floor. Given that the cost diff between a 4-speed and a 5-speed gearbox is minimal, it's an oversight.<BR/><BR/><B>Why not 6 or 7?</B><BR/>The old 50cc and 125cc Grand Prix bikes did have seven or more ratios. But they were there for purpose. The 50cc bikes, for instance, had such a narrow powerband, that they needed as many gears as they could get. And I recall reading about 12-speed and 15-speed machines. <BR/><BR/>6-gears is the current standard for performance bikes, because it allows manufacturers one more ratio to play with than a five-speed box, which is usually a good thing when you want to construct a close ratio box. At the racetrack, you actually dont use all of the gears you have (first, for instance, is almost never required). In that situation having too many gears will slow you down. RD350s for instance, found it hard to beat tuned RXs at Sri'dur because every gearchange cost them half a second. An Rx would go down from fourth to third for a corner, while an RD would need to come down from sixth to third for the same thing. That's why no one uses seven gears anymore – there aren't any motorcycles left with that kind of razor thin performance bands.<BR/><BR/>As to why the Flame does not have a 6-speed box goes? I would assume that a strong midrange and a good top-end punch would eliminate the need for 5- and 6-speed boxes. But if it had one, I for one would be very chuffed about it, for sure.rearsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08436775522778611766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-34836408900433851832007-09-05T12:56:00.000+05:302007-09-05T12:56:00.000+05:30Then why stop at 5? Just because many bikes in Ind...Then why stop at 5? Just because many bikes in India come with 5 speeder?<BR/><BR/>Why not ask for 6 or 7 gears?<BR/><BR/>Whats wrong in a bike with 4 gears if the gear ratios are well designed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-74114285788916127712007-09-05T12:47:00.000+05:302007-09-05T12:47:00.000+05:30Yes, I think that's a bit of a goof. With all the ...Yes, I think that's a bit of a goof. With all the work they've done, they should have completed the thought and put in a five-speeder.rearsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08436775522778611766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21612698.post-6362383937223525852007-09-05T01:39:00.000+05:302007-09-05T01:39:00.000+05:30@rearset: Don't you think that 4 speed gearbox is ...@rearset: Don't you think that 4 speed gearbox is a big big mistake for such a good looking, good power bike?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04406539336689134642noreply@blogger.com